Platuim ore

[Yggdrasil]

Thanks man....,however I'm actually excited about the tests and information I'm given.
It seems - and I hate to say this - but sense I'm a sigma empath, I know damn well whats going on in the minds when engaging with people. And it doesn't help that Seattle got rated #1 sadest city in America. Which I knew before the new poll came out.
Point is, after passing XRf, acid, and even a density scale tests, plus having a Pallidium hallmark on 1 item, the LCS' or gold buying companies here not only just say no, but start yelling and screaming in public in front of people. They are liars, thiefs and highly racist and discriminative. And if your'e good looking, black, brown, in shape, have a good attitude, you're totally fu#ked as soon as you walk in. I'm a little buzzed, bare with my rant. So when I came here I thought this site seemed not at all biased. But then I'm reading flat out lies about stuff. People get passionate and excited in life about things, especially a hobby/business like this. But like my coin collecting days, the people in charge ruined my favorite hobby. But anyway thats that...I know all over the place. But check these out.

Mass/Density numbers are in the middle. Move a decimal over 1 to left.
Look at Gold and Silver - they are correct densities +/- .2 grams

Sorry to break it to you but this is not densities but molar masses.
And stop ranting about lies, most people do a white lie from time to time, but they are honest almost all the time.

Your assumed Pd item do not make sense, it could have been, if it was not Silver plated, but why plate with a less noble metal?
Are you sure it is not a Silver item with Rh plating, they do exist.

To me it seems you need to study more so here are some material for you.

1. Read C.M. Hokes book on refining jewelers scrap, it gives an easy introduction to the most important chemistry regarding refining.
It is free here on the forum: Screen Readable Copy of Hoke's Book
2. Then read the safety section of the forum: Safety
3. And then read about "Dealing with waste" in the forum: Dealing with Waste

Suggested reading: The Library
Forum rules : https://goldrefiningforum.com/threads/board-policy-this-should-be-read-by-everyone.4646/

 

[olawlor]

Mass/Density numbers are in the middle. Move a decimal over 1 to left.
Look at Gold and Silver - they are correct densities +/- .2 grams

That periodic table does not show volumetric density in g/cc, it shows the atomic weight in g/mol. They happen to be fairly similar for some metals, but are way off for others like lead.

If you need corroboration, NIST lists a few example metals comparing atomic weight and density on this page: REFERENCE TABLES

 

[user 68538]

That periodic table does not show volumetric density in g/cc, it shows the atomic weight in g/mol. They happen to be fairly similar for some metals, but are way off for others like lead.

If you need corroboration, NIST lists a few example metals comparing atomic weight and density on this page: REFERENCE TABLES

Dude stop. You wonder why they have been saying Lead is 11.34 gc3? Look at the metals around that density.
Alchemy - Lead to Gold?
Well, can't just start doubling your mass or density out of thin air.
However, you can decay/deteriorate/transform into a lesser density / mass

 

[Yggdrasil]

Dude stop. You wonder why they have been saying Lead is 11.34 gc3? Look at the metals around that density.
Alchemy - Lead to Gold?
Well, can't just start doubling your mass or density out of thin air.
However, you can decay/deteriorate/transform into a lesser density / mass

He is right you know, so you are the one that needs to stop.
Specific Gravity is one of the easiest physical properties to measure. Anyone with a scale can do it. For precision, one might need better equipment than you have in the kitchen, but other wise it is the same technique.
So stop whining about all the conspiracies and tell us how screwed the world are.
The world we see is a quite logical and for the most part a well functioning place.

 

[jobinyt]

"However, you can decay/deteriorate/transform into a lesser density / mass" There's an interesting idea - I wonder, can lead be transformed to hydrogen? Hmmm, better yet - how about a table of these transformations - and how to do them. Heck, diamonds and emeralds are less dense than lead - can you tell me how to do that transformation?

 

[Yggdrasil]

"However, you can decay/deteriorate/transform into a lesser density / mass" There's an interesting idea - I wonder, can lead be transformed to hydrogen? Hmmm, better yet - how about a table of these transformations - and how to do them. Heck, diamonds and emeralds are less dense than lead - can you tell me how to do that transformation?

These things happen all the time inside any Radioactive material, the other thing happen too inside Stars.

But, guys please stop this now.

 

[BlackLabel]

Mass/Density numbers are in the middle. Move a decimal over 1 to left.
Look at Gold and Silver - they are correct densities +/- .2 grams

This is a great way to use tools wrong.
It's like you're trying to prove you can open an allen screw by using a torx bit or using sugar instead salt because it's looking nearly the same.
Is this a religious thing?

 

[user 68538]

"However, you can decay/deteriorate/transform into a lesser density / mass" There's an interesting idea - I wonder, can lead be transformed to hydrogen? Hmmm, better yet - how about a table of these transformations - and how to do them. Heck, diamonds and emeralds are less dense than lead - can you tell me how to do that transformation?

Can you tell me why Lead is ahead of Gold and Platinum on the periodic table?
Alphabetical order? lol

 

[Yggdrasil]

Can you tell me why Lead is ahead of Gold and Platinum on the periodic table?
Alphabetical order? lol

Number of Protons in the Atom.
H is 1 and Pb is 82, Gold is 79 and Pt is 78.
So the Gold is actually ahead of Lead.


Edit, swapped to a better image

 

[BlackLabel]

Can you tell me why Lead is ahead of Gold and Platinum on the periodic table?
Alphabetical order? lol

Are you wearing an aluminum hat?

 

[cejohnsonsr1]

Can you tell me why Lead is ahead of Gold and Platinum on the periodic table?
Alphabetical order? lol

The period table is listed in order of atomic mass.

 

[Yggdrasil]

The period table is listed in order of atomic mass.

It is listed by its atomic number which means the number of Protons in its core.
Example is Hydrogen, H is listed as 1 because it has one proton in its core.
Deuterium and Tritium is also listed as H because they have only one Proton in the core.
They have additionally one and two Neutrons though so their atomic mass is higher.
So even if they have similar masses as He and Li they are listed as 1 which is H.

 

[Martijn]

We may also have to explain him water is wet and he will disagree strongly accompanied with nonsense arguments keeping you all busy...
I smell a Troll.

 

[fishaholic5]

I have to agree, this individual doesn't appear to be here for any constructive input into this forum.... Nor is he here to learn anything.

Cheers Wal

 

[kurtak]

We may also have to explain him water is wet and he will disagree strongly accompanied with nonsense arguments keeping you all busy...
I smell a Troll.

I have to agree, this individual doesn't appear to be here for any constructive input into this forum.... Nor is he here to learn anything.

Cheers Wal

--- Yep

Kurt

 

[user 68538]

Are you wearing an aluminum hat?

Come on man.. that's generally what will trigger a rant and rave from me. The people who disrespect and riducule other people, for asking or pointing out....anything really, deserves what? Hate? Disdain? Absolute prejudice with public humility?
So your intelligent reply, to a legitimate scientific question - is
"Are you wearing an aluminum hat?" lol...
Wow!!
Listen up to all who were born from 78'-83'
We have a long and challenging road ahead of us. We are the True Leaders of this plane. Our journey will be exhaustingly tough and heartbreaking. But it is our duty.
We are One
How about the pics?
Go ahead and aluminum hat me now...

Edited by Moderator, removed double quote

 

[user 68538]

It is listed by its atomic number which means the number of Protons in its core.
Example is Hydrogen, H is listed as 1 because it has one proton in its core.
Deuterium and Tritium is also listed as H because they have only one Proton in the core.
They have additionally one and two Neutrons though so their atomic mass is higher.
So even if they have similar masses as He and Li they are listed as 1 which is H.

Hold on a second. Electrons and Protons have mass...correct?
And the mass number on the periodic table is the relative average weight/density of said minerals'/elements' isoptopes correct?
How bout this, I broke through the veil....
A little tough being called every name in the book for figuring out all the shit thats so obvious.... Sorry and not sorry, I'm just,
well, one of the Chosen.
No more lies and confusion for the sake of money...or more importantly - Enlightenment
We are One
Enjoy the pics you wont understand

 

[user 68538]

Hold on a second. Electrons and Protons have mass...correct?
And the mass number on the periodic table is the relative average weight/density of said minerals'/elements' isoptopes correct?
How bout this, I broke through the veil....
A little tough being called every name in the book for figuring out all the shit thats so obvious.... Sorry and not sorry, I'm just,
well, one of the Chosen.
No more lies and confusion for the sake of money...or more importantly - Enlightenment
We are One
Enjoy the pics you wont understand

Shoot yggdrasil - Thought that was to someone else

 

[user 68538]

We may also have to explain him water is wet and he will disagree strongly accompanied with nonsense arguments keeping you all busy...
I smell a Troll.

Troll this

 

[user 68538]

The period table is listed in order of atomic mass.

Holy shit!!! Exactly!!!!! Thank you.